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Jun 11 11 2:49 PM

Wag kang ma guilty kung hindi naman totoo? did i point out na extremist muslim ka? in the way kung paano ka magsalita siguro but still your supporting false doctrine.

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Jun 11 11 9:50 PM

ano pinagkaiba ng good muslim sa iyo sa isang extremist muslim kung ikaw mismo nagsabi na kaming muslim be good or extremist are supporting false doctrine? hindi ba't lumalabas talaga ang pagiging double face mo? masyado kang pakitang tao at pabait effect

Say (Mohammad):"O people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians)! Come to a word that is just between us and you, that we worship none but Allah (alone), and that we associate no partners with Him, and that none of us shall take others as lords besides Allah.: Then, if they turn away, say: "Bear witness that we are Muslims." Qur'an 3:64

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Jun 13 11 2:58 PM

I respect good muslim PEOPLE pero ibang storya kung tutukuyin eh doktrina.

and i condemn those muslims na dinadahan sa daas dahil sa paniniwala nila.

now see the different between good and extremist muslim.

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Jun 14 11 4:32 AM

Matanong lang kita Pastor James, ilang porsyento ang mga sinasabi mong extremist muslim...

Chapter 112 (Suratul Ikhlas)

In the name of Allah, the Benificent, the Merciful

112.1-4 . Say : He is Allah , the One! Allah , he eternally Besought of all! He begetteth not nor was begotten. And there is none comparable unto Him .

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Jun 14 11 9:07 AM

ha ha ewan ko kung anong right term ang dapat idikit sa iyo. bakit hindi mo ipakita dito na dinaan namin sa dahas ang paniniwala namin. At baka sakali ipakita ko din sa iyo na mas lalo ninyo dinaan sa dahas ang paniniwala ng mga kristiano para lamang yakapin ito? Wag mo ididikit ang salitang extremist sa mga muslim dahil ang salitang iyan applicable sa lahat. Kung mayroong good christian mayroon ding extremist christian.

Say (Mohammad):"O people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians)! Come to a word that is just between us and you, that we worship none but Allah (alone), and that we associate no partners with Him, and that none of us shall take others as lords besides Allah.: Then, if they turn away, say: "Bear witness that we are Muslims." Qur'an 3:64

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Jun 14 11 9:09 AM

ha ha ewan ko kung anong right term ang dapat idikit sa iyo. bakit hindi mo ipakita dito na dinaan namin sa dahas ang paniniwala namin. At baka sakali ipakita ko din sa iyo na mas lalo ninyo dinaan sa dahas ang paniniwala ng mga kristiano para lamang yakapin ito? Wag mo ididikit ang salitang extremist sa mga muslim dahil ang salitang iyan applicable sa lahat. Kung mayroong good christian mayroon ding extremist christian.

Say (Mohammad):"O people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians)! Come to a word that is just between us and you, that we worship none but Allah (alone), and that we associate no partners with Him, and that none of us shall take others as lords besides Allah.: Then, if they turn away, say: "Bear witness that we are Muslims." Qur'an 3:64

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Jun 15 11 12:15 AM

ano namang extremist Christian na pinagsasabi mo baka dynamic preacher.

hindi ba isa sa mga doktrina niyo ang jihad? or ang ibang muslim? that is against God's love at ang Diyos lang may karapatang humatol sa tao.

patunayan mo lahat ng claims mo about Christianity or against Christianity in history at papatunayan ko kung bakit at kung sino ang mga tunay na Kristiano

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Jun 15 11 1:09 AM

James307 wrote:
ano namang extremist Christian na pinagsasabi mo baka dynamic preacher.

hindi ba isa sa mga doktrina niyo ang jihad? or ang ibang muslim? that is against God's love at ang Diyos lang may karapatang humatol sa tao.

patunayan mo lahat ng claims mo about Christianity or against Christianity in history at papatunayan ko kung bakit at kung sino ang mga tunay na Kristiano



Brad maraming uri ng JIHAD, gusto mo i-seminar kita libre lang....

in fact mas marahas ang Diyos mo mag-utos kung saan maski sanggol at mga hayop ipinapatay, gusto mo ng talata :cool:

Chapter 112 (Suratul Ikhlas)

In the name of Allah, the Benificent, the Merciful

112.1-4 . Say : He is Allah , the One! Allah , he eternally Besought of all! He begetteth not nor was begotten. And there is none comparable unto Him .

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Jun 15 11 8:42 AM

ha ha ha pag christian pala dynamic christian ang tawag mo sa mga extremist na ka miyembro mo. ha ha your so pathetic boy. Ang lakas naman ng loob mo na banggitin ang salitang jihad ni kahulugan pala nito hindi mo alam. hindi ba't ikaw ang nagbanggit na extremist ang mga muslim bakit hindi ikaw ang unang magpatunay at ng malaman natin at lumabas ang kapalaluan mosa pagkakalat mo dito at saka ko ipapakita sa iyo ang mga sinasabi kong mga claims na binabanggit mo, kuha mo?

Say (Mohammad):"O people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians)! Come to a word that is just between us and you, that we worship none but Allah (alone), and that we associate no partners with Him, and that none of us shall take others as lords besides Allah.: Then, if they turn away, say: "Bear witness that we are Muslims." Qur'an 3:64

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Jun 15 11 9:08 AM

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ha ha ha pag christian pala dynamic christian ang tawag mo sa mga extremist na ka miyembro mo. ha ha your so pathetic boy. Ang lakas naman ng loob mo na banggitin ang salitang jihad ni kahulugan pala nito hindi mo alam. hindi ba't ikaw ang nagbanggit na extremist ang mga muslim bakit hindi ikaw ang unang magpatunay at ng malaman natin at lumabas ang kapalaluan mosa pagkakalat mo dito at saka ko ipapakita sa iyo ang mga sinasabi kong mga claims na binabanggit mo, kuha mo?


may punto si "copypasteJames" ang oreintation o doktrina ng mga extremist muslim ay nakuha nila sa kanilang relihiyon samakatwid False ang relihiyon mo Theoden. False din naman si James sa sekta niya kaya kahit anong gawin ninyong diskurso sigurado ako puro mababaw lang. :-P

Chapter 112 (Suratul Ikhlas)

In the name of Allah, the Benificent, the Merciful

112.1-4 . Say : He is Allah , the One! Allah , he eternally Besought of all! He begetteth not nor was begotten. And there is none comparable unto Him .

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Jun 15 11 12:46 PM

mababaw na kung mababaw at least hindi kami alulod na kagaya mo sumasahod sa usapan-ng may usapan

Say (Mohammad):"O people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians)! Come to a word that is just between us and you, that we worship none but Allah (alone), and that we associate no partners with Him, and that none of us shall take others as lords besides Allah.: Then, if they turn away, say: "Bear witness that we are Muslims." Qur'an 3:64

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Jun 18 11 12:28 AM

Walang tinurong Jihad ang Diyos kapatid kaya wag mo na akong i seminar.

btw. bago ka mag post ng talata alamin mo muna kung bakit sinabi, kung anong nangyayari noon at suporting verses bago mag conclude.

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Jun 18 11 1:39 AM

James307 wrote:
Walang tinurong Jihad ang Diyos kapatid kaya wag mo na akong i seminar.

btw. bago ka mag post ng talata alamin mo muna kung bakit sinabi, kung anong nangyayari noon at suporting verses bago mag conclude.


Tama ka walang JIHAD na itinuro ang Diyos mo kasi siya mismo ang nag-utos na pumatay ng sanggol at maski mga hayop.

So, ayaw mong i-seminar ka namin about JIHAD pero lagi mong ginagamit sa propaganda kahit hindi mo alam :-P

Papaano one on one na tayo ng talakayan tutal parang ang dami mong alam na propaganda sa ISLAM.

Chapter 112 (Suratul Ikhlas)

In the name of Allah, the Benificent, the Merciful

112.1-4 . Say : He is Allah , the One! Allah , he eternally Besought of all! He begetteth not nor was begotten. And there is none comparable unto Him .

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Jun 18 11 5:23 PM

bulag ka yata o nagbubulag-bulagan basahin mo ang biblia mo kung wala siyang inutus na jihad din? sabagay wala ka ngang makikita dahil ang salitang jihad ay salitang arabic

Say (Mohammad):"O people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians)! Come to a word that is just between us and you, that we worship none but Allah (alone), and that we associate no partners with Him, and that none of us shall take others as lords besides Allah.: Then, if they turn away, say: "Bear witness that we are Muslims." Qur'an 3:64

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Jun 18 11 11:43 PM

theoden wrote:
bulag ka yata o nagbubulag-bulagan basahin mo ang biblia mo kung wala siyang inutus na jihad din? sabagay wala ka ngang makikita dahil ang salitang jihad ay salitang arabic


Salam brother theoden, hindi kasi niya alam ang kahulugan ng JIHAD kaya huwag na natin ipilit kung wala siyang nabasa na JIHAD sa bibliya niya, pero dapat tanggapin niya na nag-utos ang Diyos niya na patayin ang mga sanggol at maski ang mga hayop na walang kalaban-laban hehehe.

Chapter 112 (Suratul Ikhlas)

In the name of Allah, the Benificent, the Merciful

112.1-4 . Say : He is Allah , the One! Allah , he eternally Besought of all! He begetteth not nor was begotten. And there is none comparable unto Him .

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Jun 19 11 1:18 AM

If you want to talk about Jihad gawa kayo ng sariling thread puro off topic ang ginagawa niyo.

i have no time for nonsense na topic lalo na kung hindi naman related sa Bibliya o hindi naman inutos ng Diyos at bigla nalang gumawa ng salita o kung ano anong bintang kahit hindi nauunawaan ang mga binabasa.

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Jun 19 11 6:50 AM

ha ha ha ha ngayon kami pa pala ang na off topic? wala malala na ang sakit mong kalimot, tandaan mo ikaw ang unang nagbanggit ng salitang jihad dito sa thread na ito at ikaw din ang tumitira sa qur'an namin sa thread na ito. Tapos ngayon kami pa ang pagsasabihan mo na kami ang nagsalita nito dito at di pala related sa biblia? katuwa ka talaga, kapag di mo masagot ang tanong sa iyo ibabato mo sa kalaban mo ang sisi. simple lang ang tanong sa iyo ni harballah tunggol sa paguutos ng Diyos mo sa iyo na pagpatay sa mga sanggol etc ngayon ayaw mong sagutin ng diretsa? huh!

Say (Mohammad):"O people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians)! Come to a word that is just between us and you, that we worship none but Allah (alone), and that we associate no partners with Him, and that none of us shall take others as lords besides Allah.: Then, if they turn away, say: "Bear witness that we are Muslims." Qur'an 3:64

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Jun 19 11 4:46 PM

James307 wrote:
If you want to talk about Jihad gawa kayo ng sariling thread puro off topic ang ginagawa niyo.

i have no time for nonsense na topic lalo na kung hindi naman related sa Bibliya o hindi naman inutos ng Diyos at bigla nalang gumawa ng salita o kung ano anong bintang kahit hindi nauunawaan ang mga binabasa.


Kitam ang ugali mo, pagkatapos mong banggitin ang JIHAD dito ay sasabihin mo na kami pa ang out of topic, ngayon napaso ka sa tanong namin ay sasabihin mo na out topic, o siya gusto mo pala ang bibliya ang pinag-uusapan ay sige nga pakisagot ang nasa bibliya mong ito.


Deuteronomy 2:33-34

And the LORD our God delivered him before us; and we smote him, and his sons, and all his people.
And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain:


Deuteronomy 20:16
However, in the cities of the nations the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes

Ezekiel 9:6 Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women: but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and begin at my sanctuary. Then they began at the ancient men which were before the house.

Deuteronomy 2:32-37
And the LORD said unto me, Behold, I have begun to give Sihon and his land before thee: begin to possess, that thou mayest inherit his land. 32 Then Sihon came out against us, he and all his people, to fight at Jahaz. 33 And the LORD our God delivered him before us; and we smote him, and his sons, and all his people. 34 And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain. 36 From Aroer, which is by the brink of the river of Arnon, and from the city that is by the river, even unto Gilead, there was not one city too strong for us: the LORD our God delivered all unto us



Walang ibinuhay si David maski ang mga kababaihan at maski pa ang mga kapapanganak at sumususo pa, maski ang mga hayop idinamay pa.

1 Samuel 27:9 And David smote the land, and left neither man nor woman alive, and took away the sheep, and the oxen, and the asses, and the camels, and the apparel, and returned, and came to Achish

1 Samuel 15:3 Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.



Sige po pakisagot na lang iyan kasi bibliya iyan at sabi mo ay ganito.


James307 wrote:

i have no time for nonsense na topic lalo na kung hindi naman related sa Bibliya o hindi naman inutos ng Diyos at bigla nalang gumawa ng salita o kung ano anong bintang kahit hindi nauunawaan ang mga binabasa.
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Chapter 112 (Suratul Ikhlas)

In the name of Allah, the Benificent, the Merciful

112.1-4 . Say : He is Allah , the One! Allah , he eternally Besought of all! He begetteth not nor was begotten. And there is none comparable unto Him .

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Jun 20 11 12:23 AM

Is God cruel?

Read this to understand...

The fact that God commanded the killing of entire nations in the Old Testament has been the subject of harsh criticism from opponents of Christianity for some time. That there was violence in the Old Testament is indisÞu+able. The question is whether Old Testament violence is justifiable and condoned by God. In his bestselling book The God Delusion, atheist Richard Dawkins refers to the God of the Old Testament as "a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser." Journalist Christopher Hitchens complains that the Old Testament contains a warrant for "indiscriminate massacre." Other critics of Christianity have leveled similar charges, accusing Yahweh of "crimes against humanity."

But are these criticisms valid? Is the God of the Old Testament a “moral monster” who arbitrarily commands genocide against innocent men, women, and children? Was His reaction to the sins of the Canaanites and the Amalekites a vicious form of "ethnic cleansing" no different from atrocities committed by the Nazis? Or is it possible that God could have had morally sufficient reasons for ordering the destruction of these nations?

God accomplished several things in commanding the Israelite attack on the Canaanites. He first enacted a kind of corporate capital punishment on a people who were deserving of God’s judgment. This destruction was directed more at the Canaanite religion (Deuteronomy 7:3-5, 12:2-3) than it was against Canaanite people per se. It was not ethnically motivated. The Canaanites were known to engage in bestiality, incest, and even child sacrifice. Deviant sexual acts were the norm. In addition, God was able to create the proper religious/historical context that would make sense of a coming Messiah. This Messiah would come to bring salvation to not only Israel, but also Israel’s enemies including Egypt, Babylon, Assyria, and Philistia (Psalm 87:4-6; Isaiah 19:23-25).

When assessing these incidents, it is important to keep in mind the decadent behavior of the people Yahweh had intended for destruction. With reference to the Canaanites author Norman Geisler has commented, “This was a thoroughly evil culture, so much so that the Bible says it nauseated God. They were into brutality, cruelty, incest, bestiality, cultic prostitution, and even child sacrifice by fire. They were an aggressive culture that wanted to annihilate the Israelites.”

It must be remembered that God gave the Canaanite people more than sufficient time to repent of their evil ways—over 400 years (Genesis 15:13-16)! The Book of Hebrews tells us that the Canaanites were "disobedient," a phrase that implies moral culpability on their part (Hebrews 11:31). The Canaanites were aware of God's power (Joshua 2:10-11, 9:9) and could have sought repentance. The example of Rahab and her family is a sure proof that the Canaanites could have avoided their destruction if they had repented before Israel's God (Joshua 2). God's desire is that the wicked turn from their sin rather than die (Ezekiel 18:31-32, 33:11).

But didn't God also command the Israelites to kill non-combatants? The biblical record is clear that He did. Here again, we must remember that while it is true the Canaanite women did not fight, this in no way means they were innocent, as their seductive behavior in Numbers 25 indicates (Numbers 25:1-3). However, the question still remains: what about the children? This is not an easy question to answer but we must keep several things in mind. First, no human person (including infants) is truly innocent. The Scripture teaches that we are all born in sin (Psalm 51:5, 58:3). This implies that all people are morally culpable for Adam’s sin in some way. Infants are just as condemned from sin as adults are.

Second, God is sovereign over all of life and can take it whenever He sees fit. God, and God alone, can give life and God alone has the right to take it whenever He so chooses. In fact, He ultimately takes every person's life at death. It is not our life to begin with but God’s. While it is wrong for us to take a life, this does not mean that it is wrong for God to do so. We intuitively recognize this when we accuse some person or authority who takes human life as "playing God." God is under no obligation to extend anyone's life for even another day. How and when we die is completely up to Him.

Third, an argument could be made that it would have been cruel for God to take the lives of all the Canaanites except the infants and children. Without the protection and support of their parents, the infants and small children were likely to face death anyway due to starvation. The chances of survival for an orphan in the ancient Near East were not good.

Finally, and most importantly, God may have provided for the salvation for those infants who would not have otherwise attained salvation if they had lived into adulthood. We must remember that the Canaanites were a barbarous and evil culture. If those infants and children had lived into adulthood, it is very likely they would have turned into something similar to their parents and been condemned to hell after they died. If all infants and young children who die before an age of moral accountability go straight to heaven (as we believe), then those children are in a far better place than if God had allowed them to live and grow to maturity in a depraved culture.

Surely the issue of God commanding violence in the Old Testament is difficult. However, we must remember that God sees things from an eternal perspective, and His ways are not our ways (Isaiah 55:8-9). The Apostle Paul tells us that God is both kind and severe (Romans 11:22). While it is true that God's holy character demands that sin be punished, His grace and mercy remain extended to those who are willing to repent and be saved. The Canaanite destruction provides us with a sober reminder that while our God is gracious and merciful, He is also a God of holiness and wrath.

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Jun 20 11 2:40 AM

Puwede pakisagot ito at huwag mo akong latagan ng copy, cut and paste mo :-P

Halata naman hindi sagot iyan sa post ko dito, sige na huwag ka ng mahiya at bibliya mo na ang inilalatag ko at hindi Quran.



Harballah wrote:
James307 wrote:
If you want to talk about Jihad gawa kayo ng sariling thread puro off topic ang ginagawa niyo.

i have no time for nonsense na topic lalo na kung hindi naman related sa Bibliya o hindi naman inutos ng Diyos at bigla nalang gumawa ng salita o kung ano anong bintang kahit hindi nauunawaan ang mga binabasa.


Kitam ang ugali mo, pagkatapos mong banggitin ang JIHAD dito ay sasabihin mo na kami pa ang out of topic, ngayon napaso ka sa tanong namin ay sasabihin mo na out topic, o siya gusto mo pala ang bibliya ang pinag-uusapan ay sige nga pakisagot ang nasa bibliya mong ito.


Deuteronomy 2:33-34

And the LORD our God delivered him before us; and we smote him, and his sons, and all his people.
And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain:


Deuteronomy 20:16
However, in the cities of the nations the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes

Ezekiel 9:6 Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women: but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and begin at my sanctuary. Then they began at the ancient men which were before the house.

Deuteronomy 2:32-37
And the LORD said unto me, Behold, I have begun to give Sihon and his land before thee: begin to possess, that thou mayest inherit his land. 32 Then Sihon came out against us, he and all his people, to fight at Jahaz. 33 And the LORD our God delivered him before us; and we smote him, and his sons, and all his people. 34 And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain. 36 From Aroer, which is by the brink of the river of Arnon, and from the city that is by the river, even unto Gilead, there was not one city too strong for us: the LORD our God delivered all unto us



Walang ibinuhay si David maski ang mga kababaihan at maski pa ang mga kapapanganak at sumususo pa, maski ang mga hayop idinamay pa.

1 Samuel 27:9 And David smote the land, and left neither man nor woman alive, and took away the sheep, and the oxen, and the asses, and the camels, and the apparel, and returned, and came to Achish

1 Samuel 15:3 Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.



Sige po pakisagot na lang iyan kasi bibliya iyan at sabi mo ay ganito.


James307 wrote:

i have no time for nonsense na topic lalo na kung hindi naman related sa Bibliya o hindi naman inutos ng Diyos at bigla nalang gumawa ng salita o kung ano anong bintang kahit hindi nauunawaan ang mga binabasa.
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Chapter 112 (Suratul Ikhlas)

In the name of Allah, the Benificent, the Merciful

112.1-4 . Say : He is Allah , the One! Allah , he eternally Besought of all! He begetteth not nor was begotten. And there is none comparable unto Him .

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