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Jun 20 11 12:12 PM

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But are these criticisms valid? Is the God of the Old Testament a “moral monster” who arbitrarily commands genocide against innocent men, women, and children? Was His reaction to the sins of the Canaanites and the Amalekites a vicious form of "ethnic cleansing" no different from atrocities committed by the Nazis? Or is it possible that God could have had morally sufficient reasons for ordering the destruction of these nations?


Sige bakit hindi nga natin tignan kung morally sufficient ang ginawa ng "diyos" mo.

God accomplished several things in commanding the Israelite attack on the Canaanites. He first enacted a kind of corporate capital punishment on a people who were deserving of God’s judgment. This destruction was directed more at the Canaanite religion (Deuteronomy 7:3-5, 12:2-3) than it was against Canaanite people per se.


binangngit mo ang 2 verses dito unahin natin yung isa:

"3 Do not intermarry with them. Do not give your daughters to their sons or take their daughters for your sons, 4 for they will turn your children away from following me to serve other gods, and the LORD’s anger will burn against you and will quickly destroy you. 5 This is what you are to do to them: Break down their altars, smash their sacred stones, cut down their Asherah poles[a] and burn their idols in the fire. " Deut. 7:3-5

Sa opinyon mo sa kadahilanan ng kanilang paraan ng pagsamba at pinaniniwalaan kailangan talagang iutos ng Diyos na i wipe out ang entire nation para lamang mabura ang religion nila? Do you think its morally sufficient?

pangalawa iqinoute mo:

"2 Destroy completely all the places on the high mountains, on the hills and under every spreading tree, where the nations you are dispossessing worship their gods. 3 Break down their altars, smash their sacred stones and burn their Asherah poles in the fire; cut down the idols of their gods and wipe out their names from those places." Deut. 12:2-3

Hindi ba't sapa't ng sirain ang mga bahay dalanginan nila para pigilan sila sa pagsamba sa kung kanino man?

It was not ethnically motivated. The Canaanites were known to engage in bestiality, incest, and even child sacrifice.


Pwede bang magbigay ka ng mga konkretong katibayan na ang mga canaanites ay nageengage sa mga nasabi mong crimes?

Deviant sexual acts were the norm. In addition, God was able to create the proper religious/historical context that would make sense of a coming Messiah. This Messiah would come to bring salvation to not only Israel, but also Israel’s enemies including Egypt, Babylon, Assyria, and Philistia (Psalm 87:4-6; Isaiah 19:23-25).


sa pagdating pala ng sinasabi mong messiah kailangan patayin muna ng Diyos at linisin ang mundo sa kasamaang ginagawa ng tao?

When assessing these incidents, it is important to keep in mind the decadent behavior of the people Yahweh had intended for destruction. With reference to the Canaanites author Norman Geisler has commented, “This was a thoroughly evil culture, so much so that the Bible says it nauseated God. They were into brutality, cruelty, incest, bestiality, cultic prostitution, and even child sacrifice by fire. They were an aggressive culture that wanted to annihilate the Israelites.”

pakimention nga dito kung saan sa biblia na sinabing nauseated ang Diyos laban sa caananites? sino ba si normal geisler, isa siyang christian apologist. So what's new?


It must be remembered that God gave the Canaanite people more than sufficient time to repent of their evil ways—over 400 years (Genesis 15:13-16)! The Book of Hebrews tells us that the Canaanites were "disobedient," a phrase that implies moral culpability on their part (Hebrews 11:31).


Hindi ba't ang israeli din ay disobedient sa Diyos? Does it mean they are also morally culpable? Baka naman sabihin mo sa akin ay "siyempre iba yunkasi sila ang chosen people"?

But didn't God also command the Israelites to kill non-combatants? The biblical record is clear that He did. Here again, we must remember that while it is true the Canaanite women did not fight, this in no way means they were innocent, as their seductive behavior in Numbers 25 indicates (Numbers 25:1-3).


may na mention lang na mga kababaihan na nag seduce does it mean lahat ng babae nila ganun na? Pano kung sabihin ko na lahat ng babae ng kristianismo eh mga Þu+a din hindi ka ba papalag at ipatatanggol sila dahil sa katotohanan naman ay hindi naman lahat?

However, the question still remains: what about the children? This is not an easy question to answer but we must keep several things in mind. First, no human person (including infants) is truly innocent. The Scripture teaches that we are all born in sin (Psalm 51:5, 58:3). This implies that all people are morally culpable for Adam’s sin in some way. Infants are just as condemned from sin as adults are.


May God ako ang parang gustong masuka sa sinabi mo dito. Lubhang taliwas talaga ang pinaniniwalaan mo kaysa sa itinuro ng TUNAY na Diyos sa iyo. Sinabi niya na

Parents are not to be put to death for their children, nor children put to death for their parents; each will die for their own sin. Deut. 24:16

Second, God is sovereign over all of life and can take it whenever He sees fit. God, and God alone, can give life and God alone has the right to take it whenever He so chooses. In fact, He ultimately takes every person's life at death. It is not our life to begin with but God’s. While it is wrong for us to take a life, this does not mean that it is wrong for God to do so
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God can take away everything He wants, and yet God is Just too. Hindi siya basta bumabawi dahil lang sa gusto Niya. hindi kumikilos ang Diyos ng walang sapat, malinaw, at makatarungang dahilan. Ang Diyos ay hindi naniniwala sa "trip trip lang"

Finally, and most importantly, God may have provided for the salvation for those infants who would not have otherwise attained salvation if they had lived into adulthood. We must remember that the Canaanites were a barbarous and evil culture. If those infants and children had lived into adulthood, it is very likely they would have turned into something similar to their parents and been condemned to hell after they died. If all infants and young children who die before an age of moral accountability go straight to heaven (as we believe), then those children are in a far better place than if God had allowed them to live and grow to maturity in a depraved culture.


Para naman sinabi mong hindi alam ng Diyos kung ano ang kahihinatnat ng isang tao kapag siya ay nabuhay sa mundo? Ibig mo bang sabihin hinayaan lang ng Diyos na isilang ang mga muwang na sanggol para lamang patayin? ewan ko di ko alam kung anong Diyos meron ka

Surely the issue of God commanding violence in the Old Testament is difficult. However, we must remember that God sees things from an eternal perspective, and His ways are not our ways (Isaiah 55:8-9). The Apostle Paul tells us that God is both kind and severe (Romans 11:22).


Sabi kamo ng pablo mo "God is both kind and severe"? Severe kung magparusa pero tandaan mo just ang Diyos. Hindi siya nagpaparusa ng severe kung walang katarungan

Say (Mohammad):"O people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians)! Come to a word that is just between us and you, that we worship none but Allah (alone), and that we associate no partners with Him, and that none of us shall take others as lords besides Allah.: Then, if they turn away, say: "Bear witness that we are Muslims." Qur'an 3:64

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Jun 20 11 3:20 PM

self opinion again halatang hindi nauunawaan ang Bibliya at nakikilala ang karakter ng Diyos... at kung bakit nangyari ang mga bagay na yan.

The Bible, God’s Word, tells us what God is like and what He is not like. Without the authority of the Bible, any attempt to explain God’s attributes would be no better than an opinion, which by itself is often incorrect, especially in understanding God (Job 42:7). To say that it is important for us to try to understand what God is like is a huge understatement. Failure to do so can cause us to set up, chase after, and worship false gods contrary to His will (Exodus 20:3-5).

Only what God has chosen to reveal of Himself can be known. One of God's attributes or qualities is “light,” meaning that He is self-revealing in information of Himself (Isaiah 60:19; James 1:17). The fact that God has revealed knowledge of Himself should not be neglected (Hebrews 4:1). Creation, the Bible, and the Word made flesh (Jesus Christ) will help us to know what God is like.

Let's start by understanding that God is our Creator and that we are a part of His creation (Genesis 1:1; Psalm 24:1) and are created in His image. Man is above the rest of creation and was given dominion over it (Genesis 1:26-2. Creation is marred by the fall but still offers a glimpse of God’s works (Genesis 3:17-18; Romans 1:19-20). By considering creation's vastness, complexity, beauty, and order, we can have a sense of the awesomeness of God.

Reading through some of the names of God can be helpful in our search of what God is like. They are as follows:

Elohim - strong One, divine (Genesis 1:1)
Adonai - Lord, indicating a Master-to-servant relationship (Exodus 4:10, 13)
El Elyon - Most High, the strongest One (Genesis 14:20)
El Roi - the strong One who sees (Genesis 16:13)
El Shaddai - Almighty God (Genesis 17:1)
El Olam - Everlasting God (Isaiah 40:2
Yahweh - LORD “I Am,” meaning the eternal self-existent God (Exodus 3:13, 14).

God is eternal, meaning He had no beginning and His existence will never end. He is immortal and infinite (Deuteronomy 33:27; Psalm 90:2; 1 Timothy 1:17). God is immutable, meaning He is unchanging; this in turn means that God is absolutely reliable and trustworthy (Malachi 3:6; Numbers 23:19; Psalm 102:26, 27). God is incomparable; there is no one like Him in works or being. He is unequaled and perfect (2 Samuel 7:22; Psalm 86:8; Isaiah 40:25; Matthew 5:4. God is inscrutable, unfathomable, unsearchable, and past finding out as far as understanding Him completely (Isaiah 40:28; Psalm 145:3; Romans 11:33, 34).

God is just; He is no respecter of persons in the sense of showing favoritism (Deuteronomy 32:4; Psalm 18:30). God is omnipotent; He is all-powerful and can do anything that pleases Him, but His actions will always be in accord with the rest of His character (Revelation 19:6; Jeremiah 32:17, 27). God is omnipresent, meaning He is present everywhere, but this does not mean that God is everything (Psalm 139:7-13; Jeremiah 23:23). God is omniscient, meaning He knows the past, present, and future, including what we are thinking at any given moment. Since He knows everything, His justice will always be administered fairly (Psalm 139:1-5; Proverbs 5:21).

God is one; not only is there no other, but He is alone in being able to meet the deepest needs and longings of our hearts. God alone is worthy of our worship and devotion (Deuteronomy 6:4). God is righteous, meaning that God cannot and will not pass over wrongdoing. It is because of God’s righteousness and justice that, in order for our sins to be forgiven, Jesus had to experience God's wrath when our sins were placed upon Him (Exodus 9:27; Matthew 27:45-46; Romans 3:21-26).

God is sovereign, meaning He is supreme. All of His creation put together cannot thwart His purposes (Psalm 93:1; 95:3; Jeremiah 23:20). God is spirit, meaning He is invisible (John 1:18; 4:24). God is a Trinity. He is three in one, the same in substance, equal in power and glory. God is truth, He will remain incorruptible and cannot lie (Psalm 117:2; 1 Samuel 15:29).

God is holy, separated from all moral defilement and hostile toward it. God sees all evil and it angers Him. God is referred to as a consuming fire (Isaiah 6:3; Habakkuk 1:13; Exodus 3:2, 4-5; Hebrews 12:29). God is gracious, and His grace includes His goodness, kindness, mercy, and love. If it were not for God's grace, His holiness would exclude us from His presence. Thankfully, this is not the case, for He desires to know each of us personally (Exodus 34:6; Psalm 31:19; 1 Peter 1:3; John 3:16, 17:3).

Since God is an infinite Being, no human can fully answer this God-sized question, but through God’s Word, we can understand much about who God is and what He is like. May we all wholeheartedly continue to seek after Him (Jeremiah 29:13).

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Jun 20 11 3:21 PM

May matalinong DIYOS na lumikha ng mga bagay bagay ayon sa pagkakaayos nito at purpose.
Sa isang room try nating mag iwan ng gulo gulong silya at balikan natin sa isang taon… tignan natin kung sa sarili nito ay magiging maayos?
Napatunayan lang na ang BIGBANG THEORY ay isang malaking KASINUNGALINGAN …
Tayo ay nilikha at HINDI biglang sumulpot o nag pop up bigla… tayo ay PERPEKTONG likha ng Diyos at ang kasalanan ang nagpahamak sa atin.
May mga taong ayaw tumanggap at kumilala sa Diyos dahil sa pagmamarunong nila at patuloy na hindi pag unawa sa SALITA NG DIYOS dahil sa mas minamahal nila ang kasalanan at KAMANGMANGAN!
Ang mga KRISTIANO ay mga LINGKOD tayo ay sinusubok sa ating PANANAMPALATAYA, at NORMAL lang ang mga problema sa buhay para masabing maging MATAGUMPAY at hindi lang puro KAGINHAWAAN… tayo ay nilikha na may PURPOSE sa PLANO at KALOOBAN NG DIYOS.
Lahat halos ng PROPESIYA SA BIBLIYA AY NAGANAP NA! ang pagkapanganak ng isang manunubos na si Hesus at ang hindi pagbale sa Kanyang mga buto, ang damit niya na pinagsapalaran, si juan bautista na mauuna sa Kanya na hinula na sa LUMANG TIPAN PA LAMANG… nagsasalita ang Diyos noon at ngayon… sa pamamagitan ng mga PROPETA, APOSTOL, MANGANGARAL AT ANG SALITA NIYA o BIBLIYA… lahat ay nasa pagkakasunod sunod, process… ang Diyos na patas, mabuti at MATUWID NA HUMATOL… kaya walang maidadahilan ang tao sa Kanya… sa mga di KUMILALA at DI TUMANGGAP SA KANYA!
Ikaw kaibigan ay inaanyayahan Niya… may pag- asa pa… walang mangyayari kung patuloy ang pride at pagmamatigasin mo ang puso mo.
Si Hesus ay muling babalik at sa Kanyang pababalik Kanya ng hahatulan ang mga di sumampalataya at gagantimpalaan ang mga tapat at naghintay sa Kanyang pagbabalik…
Malalaman niyo na ang puno ng igos sa pamumunga nito ay tulad ng pagbabalik ng Israel sa sariling Bayan… na ang Kanyang pagbabalik ay naihula… pinagpala ang mga mabubuting Kristiano at sumpa sa mga makasalanang nagbubuhay sa kasamaan.
Daniel 12:
4But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.
2 Pedro 3:9 (Ang Salita ng Diyos)
9Ang katuparan ng pangako ay hindi inaantala ng Panginoon tulad ng inaakala ng iba. Siya ay mapagtiis sa atin. Hindi niya nais na ang sinuman ay mapahamak kundi ang lahat ay magsisi.

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Jun 20 11 3:22 PM

God gave us free will to choose and freedom to do what we knows right or wrong for personal gain or happiness… He give us option to do good or bad).

God permits everything to happen “good or what we think evil and sufferings” bu it bring something good, God permit Job to suffer to test His faith and He was bless…

The test of everyone faith, Christians living by faith… most of the times our own decision and actions are the result of pain and cursed, all of the evil and immoral actions of man.

But let us see this good example in war, other think it’s bad… [American will not get their freedom if they will not fight for it, slavery will not be abolished if good people will not sacrifice their life to freed them].

We must understand life, we must understand everything and everything has change… learn to accept… God knows and permits all things to happen- He is in control, He created you as you are for His Glory, do not blame God, as I said we are the ones mostly creating problems and trials are normal to life…

This history will repeat itself and all things had beginning and end, we can’t stop it… God Has plan and purpose, God love us- He wants good for us, If only people will hear Him and obey.

Sometimes it’s hard to accept and understand, but God knows His own (those who believe) and those who rejected Him (Those who do not know Him), Those who stand for the truth and in love, God is not unfair (The world is unfair)… He is GOOD AND JUST, Man Choose and Live…

Life is not the way we want it perfectly, we have limitations and destiny, don’t live by FANTASIES AND SINS… don’t be materialistic and have pride.

“We born- we die, we love- and hate, we joy and we cry, we succeed and we fail until we fall… life is too short and important, everything happens, if it is your time it will surely happens.

What matters now or the important thing we need to do is to look around and see the reality, look at others and look at yourself, look at the people needy, and the people live in luxury and lust, now the answer is in yourself; WILL YOU RESPOND TO GOD’S CALL?

God created you not accidentally but with a special purpose, His calling- accept it or ignore it? Will you be selfish and be part of the condemn ones… (remember that all things we do for God will last and all things in earth will pass away.

Jesus Christ gave His life and teach others how to live, He is not forcing us to accept and follow Him, but He knows every faith of those who trust Him, He is the Lord and Savior- Hope for every mankind!

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Jun 21 11 4:11 AM

Nag-spamming naman si Pastor James, ang ganda ng pagkowt ni theoden at imbes na sagutin tinambakan ng copy, cut and paste

Pastor-pastoran lang talaga itong si James.

Chapter 112 (Suratul Ikhlas)

In the name of Allah, the Benificent, the Merciful

112.1-4 . Say : He is Allah , the One! Allah , he eternally Besought of all! He begetteth not nor was begotten. And there is none comparable unto Him .

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Jun 21 11 9:04 AM

habang sagot wala naman asagot ni isa sa tanong ko. Haaay certified spammer ka talaga. hindi ka ba talaga capable na sumagot ng direkta sa tinatanong sa iyo base sa iyong taglay na karunungan at opinion? Sa susunod ibigay mo na lang kung sino ang author ng mga ipinapaskil mo dito at baka sila na lang ang hanapin namin at kausapin. Baka sakaling sila ay sumagot ng direkta sa tanong di tulad mo panay iwas.

Say (Mohammad):"O people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians)! Come to a word that is just between us and you, that we worship none but Allah (alone), and that we associate no partners with Him, and that none of us shall take others as lords besides Allah.: Then, if they turn away, say: "Bear witness that we are Muslims." Qur'an 3:64

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Jun 21 11 5:12 PM

Tama iyan brother theoden, ipinangalandakan niya na nasagot daw tayo pero ang post niya ay galing lang sa copy, cut and paste lang, kaya nga tinatawanan iyan sa PEX at hindi na ako nakikisali kasi naawa narin ako sa kanya pero kasalanan din niya kasi nagkakalat siya ng mga nakokopya niya at kunwari galing sa kanya, kung ayaw niyang mapupuna ay dapat gumawa siya ng sariling websites at blogsite para doon lang niya ipost ang mga inilalatag niya dito.

Nakita mo walang sinagot maski isa sa post mo at dapat kung maysagot iyan dapat kinowt niya ang mga post mo...

then sasabihin sa atin "sinagot ko naman kayo kaya lang hindi ninyo mauunawaan"

Chapter 112 (Suratul Ikhlas)

In the name of Allah, the Benificent, the Merciful

112.1-4 . Say : He is Allah , the One! Allah , he eternally Besought of all! He begetteth not nor was begotten. And there is none comparable unto Him .

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Jun 22 11 4:28 PM

ikaw kaya ang walang tanong sa pag refute ko sa topic mo. so ibig sabihin agree ka sa sinabi ko, so tapos na ang usapan

Say (Mohammad):"O people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians)! Come to a word that is just between us and you, that we worship none but Allah (alone), and that we associate no partners with Him, and that none of us shall take others as lords besides Allah.: Then, if they turn away, say: "Bear witness that we are Muslims." Qur'an 3:64

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Jun 22 11 4:41 PM

James307 wrote:
wala na bang tanong or refute BASE ON THE TOPIC NOH.

kung wala na preachings will proceed.


Anong walang tanong gayong hindi mo sinagot si Theoden ng deretsahan puro ka lang copy, cut and paste...........aliln ang preaching sinasabi mo ang spamming post mo

Gawa ka ng sarili mong websites doon ka mag-bleach este preach pala.

Chapter 112 (Suratul Ikhlas)

In the name of Allah, the Benificent, the Merciful

112.1-4 . Say : He is Allah , the One! Allah , he eternally Besought of all! He begetteth not nor was begotten. And there is none comparable unto Him .

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Jun 23 11 5:14 PM

James307 wrote:
sinagot ko rin ang mga post niya on my writings ang references.

ano pang hindi nauunawaan dun?


Ang makakabuti sa iyo Pastor James tigilan mo na ang pangangaral mo kung hindi karin sasagot sa katanungan sa inyo ng deretsahan, kasi kung copy, cut and paste lang ang alam mo ay mas makakabuti ibigay mo na lang ang websites na pinagkunan mo.

Chapter 112 (Suratul Ikhlas)

In the name of Allah, the Benificent, the Merciful

112.1-4 . Say : He is Allah , the One! Allah , he eternally Besought of all! He begetteth not nor was begotten. And there is none comparable unto Him .

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Jun 25 11 5:12 PM

James307 wrote:
spamming again

repeated post to different threads.

wala ka na bang alam ibang sabihin.


ano paba ang dapat sabihin sa inyo kundi payuhan lang kayo na gumawa ng websites at doon ka mangaral at mag-preaching, tutal ayaw mo naman sumagot sa mga tanong sa inyo ng deretsahan puro ka lang copy, cut and paste :cool:

Chapter 112 (Suratul Ikhlas)

In the name of Allah, the Benificent, the Merciful

112.1-4 . Say : He is Allah , the One! Allah , he eternally Besought of all! He begetteth not nor was begotten. And there is none comparable unto Him .

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Jun 26 11 6:11 PM

kaya nga james wag kang pasaway kasi lahat ng topic mo ikaw ang nag a out of topic tsk tsk

Say (Mohammad):"O people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians)! Come to a word that is just between us and you, that we worship none but Allah (alone), and that we associate no partners with Him, and that none of us shall take others as lords besides Allah.: Then, if they turn away, say: "Bear witness that we are Muslims." Qur'an 3:64

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Jun 26 11 10:15 PM

James307 wrote:
Hindi mo pag aari ang site kaya wag mo akong tuturuan kung anong ipopost ko.

makipag discussion base sa topic at wag pasaway.


Tama ka hindi ko pag-aari ang sites na ito at lalong hindi mo pag-aari kaya huwag kang mangaral dito at tuligsain kami.

Kung ayaw mong sumagot sa amin ay gawa ka na lang ng sarili mong sites at sigurado ko walang makikialam sa iyo doon, KUHA MO!

Chapter 112 (Suratul Ikhlas)

In the name of Allah, the Benificent, the Merciful

112.1-4 . Say : He is Allah , the One! Allah , he eternally Besought of all! He begetteth not nor was begotten. And there is none comparable unto Him .

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Jun 27 11 1:27 AM

James307 wrote:
The topic is:

Life after death



Okey magpakita ka sa akin kung pagkatapos ng kamatayan ay mayroon bagong buhay, sige latag mo kung ano ang gagawin ninyo sa kabilang buhay.

Ayan sagutin mo ng gamit ang utak mo at hindi iyong copy, cut and paste.

simple lang ang tanong dapat mayroon kang katibayan at kung maglatag ka ng talata ay dapat ipaliwanag mo (with exegesis).

Chapter 112 (Suratul Ikhlas)

In the name of Allah, the Benificent, the Merciful

112.1-4 . Say : He is Allah , the One! Allah , he eternally Besought of all! He begetteth not nor was begotten. And there is none comparable unto Him .

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Jun 27 11 8:07 AM

since topic kamo ay life after death sagot eto pa 2 question saan napupunta ang kaluluwang mga namatay na pagkatapos silang mamatay. diretso ba sila sa langit o impiyerno o may pinaglalagyan muna sa kanila?

Say (Mohammad):"O people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians)! Come to a word that is just between us and you, that we worship none but Allah (alone), and that we associate no partners with Him, and that none of us shall take others as lords besides Allah.: Then, if they turn away, say: "Bear witness that we are Muslims." Qur'an 3:64

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